Vienna → Bad Ischl · Belvedere, nearby churches, Naschmarkt, leaving at 17:57 (originally 16:57)
Key times
- —Leave the hotel for Keleti (tram 1 + bus 80)
- 08:30EC 140 leaves Budapest-Keleti and arrives at Wien Hbf at 11:20 (direct, already bought)
- 11:20Arrive at Wien Hbf, store the two small suitcases in the lower-level lockers (on the spot, contactless bank cards only)
- 12:00Upper Belvedere timed ticket
- 16:57IC 742 leaves Wien Hbf (change at Attnang and Gmunden; Gmunden to Bad Ischl is the SV170 replacement bus), arrive at Bad Ischl at 20:00 (fixed, decision D-44; tickets for 4 people already bought)
- 17:57Actually taking IC 744 (Wien Hbf platform 7, 4 reserved seats in car 15), 19:58 Attnang change to R 3432 at 20:08, Gmunden change to the SV170 bus at 20:28, arrive at Bad Ischl at 21:21 (changed on the afternoon of 10-27, decision D-58); the itinerary is in the third plan, "Later option", below
Places to go first timeline set, by time
- 12:00–13:30
Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss)
Oberes Belvedere, Prinz-Eugen-Straße 27, WienMap ↗ - 13:41–13:56
Salesianerinnenkirche (Salesian Nuns' Church, Rennweg)
Salesianerinnenkirche, Rennweg 10, 1030 WienMap ↗ - 14:01–14:15
Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg)
Gardekirche, Rennweg 5a, 1030 WienMap ↗ - 14:24–14:44
Karlskirche (incl. dome platform)
Karlskirche, Karlsplatz, WienMap ↗ - 14:56–15:42
EatNaschmarkt and Saturday flea market
Naschmarkt + Flohmarkt (Kettenbrückengasse), WienMap ↗ or Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise)Café Sperl, Gumpendorfer Straße 11, 1060 WienMap ↗ or Chen's RamenChen's Ramen, Krugerstraße 7, 1010 WienMap ↗
Tools and apps: need to know · Tickets and reservations (2 not done) · Ticket notes · People to contact
Splitting up and regrouping
- The whole group walks together. I haven't checked whether the two churches on Rennweg can be entered, so see them as an exterior on the way; anyone who doesn't want to can stay longer in the Belvedere garden, and we meet at the Gardekirche entrance at 14:15.
- Leave Naschmarkt at 15:42, back at Hbf at 16:03 to pick up the suitcases, then buy tonight's and tomorrow morning's food at the Interspar in the station, with 37 min to spare.
Transport
- Hotel → Keleti: tram 1, then bus 80 at 07:41, arrive 07:47, walk 5′ → 07:52 (checked on Transitous 10-22).
- Outbound: EC 140 Budapest-Keleti 08:30 → Wien Hbf 11:20, direct (already bought).
- Storing the suitcases: digital lockers on the lower level of Hbf, one XL compartment holds the two small suitcases (or two L compartments, one each); contactless bank cards only; store on the spot, no reservation (if they are full, see the "Tickets and reservations" page).
- Hbf → Upper Belvedere: tram 18 11:44 → 11:47 + walk 9′, or walk 15′. Belvedere → Rennweg through the garden: walk 11′; the two churches on Rennweg are a 5′ walk apart; Gardekirche → Karlskirche walk 9′; Karlskirche → Naschmarkt walk 12′; Naschmarkt → Hbf: walk 11′ + U1 + walk 6′, about 21′.
- All departures from Wien Hbf to Bad Ischl from the afternoon to the evening of 10-27 (checked on Transitous 10-22; "Changes" means the number of transfers; SV170 is the replacement bus from Gmunden to Bad Ischl, the railway is closed until 11/2; 150 is the ordinary regional bus from Salzburg to Bad Ischl, about 75′):
| Dep. | Arrive Bad Ischl | Changes | Route |
|---|---|---|---|
| 15:57 | 19:00 | 2 | IC 740 → Attnang → R 4418 → Gmunden → SV170 bus (one earlier) |
| 16:28 | 20:38 | 1 | RJX 19986 → Salzburg 18:53 → bus 150 19:15 |
| 16:57 | 20:00 | 2 | IC 742 → Attnang 18:58 → REX 4420 → Gmunden 19:19 → SV170 bus 19:23 (Recommended) |
| 17:28 | 21:29 | 1 | RJX 19970 → Salzburg 19:53 → bus 150 20:15 |
| 17:57 | 21:21 | 2 | IC 744 → Attnang → R 3432 → Gmunden → SV170 bus (one later) |
| 18:28 | 22:21 | 2 | RJX 19988 → Linz → S2 → Gmunden → SV170 bus |
| 18:36 | 22:29 | 1 | Night train NJ 40490 → Salzburg 21:12 → bus 150 21:15 (seat reservation required) |
| 18:57 | 22:21 | 3 | IC 746 → Amstetten → WB 954 → Attnang → REX 4424 → Gmunden → SV170 bus |
| 19:28 | 23:29 | 1 | RJX 19972 → Salzburg → bus 150 22:15 |
| 19:57 | 23:21 | 2 | IC 748 → Attnang → R 3434 → Gmunden → SV170 bus |
| 20:28 | 00:29 | 1 | RJX 664 → Salzburg 22:59 → bus 150 23:15 |
| 20:57 | 00:21 | 2 | IC 840 → Attnang → R 3438 → Gmunden → SV170 bus 23:28 (the last one) |
- Trains leaving from Westbahnhof (Westbahn plus bus 150 or REX) do not arrive any earlier than the ones from Hbf, so there is no need to change stations.
- For the 15:57 and 16:57 trains, ÖBB shows a notice "busy, only a seat reservation guarantees a seat" (from the previous ÖBB notification); tickets for 4 people are already bought (decision D-47); if no seats were reserved, you can add a reservation separately in the ÖBB app (seat reservation only, €3 per person).
- Bad Ischl station → Airbnb. Airbnb check-in from 16:00; if arriving late, message the host first.
Timeline for the day
From morning to night, one column per track for each plan, side by side for comparison. Block height roughly follows duration; when the text does not fit, the block grows taller and the times below move down, so read the hour marks and the times written on the blocks, not the lengths. Blocks with a solid border are fixed (on the timetable or booked); most of the rest are estimates. Click a block for details.
Get up, check out, take the two small suitcases
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Hotel → Budapest-Keleti
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Type
- Transit · tram 1 + bus 80 + walk 5′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (bus)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the second 24 h ticket · Tickets and reservations
Wait for the train at the Keleti platform, buy water
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 07:52–08:30 (38 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
EC 140 Budapest-Keleti → Wien Hbf (direct, already bought)
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 08:30–11:20 (2 h 50)
- Type
- Fixed point
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-20; bought
- Transport tickets
- Bought; the price follows the order · Tickets and reservations
Store the two small suitcases on the lower level of Hbf (one XL compartment, on the spot, contactless bank cards only); buy a bite at Interspar to tide you over
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 11:20–11:40 (20 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Hbf → Upper Belvedere
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 11:40–11:56 (16 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 4′ + tram 18 11:44 → Quartier Belvedere 11:47 + walk 9′ (or walk the whole way, 15′)
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Included in the 7 Tage (€25.20, also covers 10-30 and 10-31) · Tickets and reservations
Queue to enter
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 11:56–12:00 (4 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss)
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 12:00–13:30 (1 h 30)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Notes
- 12:00 timed ticket; Upper Belvedere plus the garden, about 1.5 h; Klimt's The Kiss
- Ticket price
- Adult €23 | Student €19 (under 26)
- Place
- Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss) · See card
Belvedere → Rennweg
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 13:30–13:41 (11 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 11′ through the garden
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Salesianerinnenkirche (Church of the Salesian Sisters, Rennweg)
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 13:41–13:56 (15 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Rennweg 10; not verified whether the inside can be entered, treat it as an outside view on the way
- Place
- Salesianerinnenkirche (Salesian Nuns' Church, Rennweg) · See card
→ Gardekirche
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 13:56–14:01 (5 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 5′
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg)
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:01–14:15 (14 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Rennweg 5a, Polish Church; the inside is probably open only during Mass, not verified
- Place
- Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg) · See card
Gardekirche → Karlskirche
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:15–14:24 (9 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 9′
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Karlskirche (incl. dome platform)
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:24–14:44 (20 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- On this day we only look at the exterior and the Henry Moore sculpture in the pool in front, and don't buy a ticket (go in on the evening of 10-31, student €6). If you want to go in on this day, add 40′ and shorten the Naschmarkt lunch
- Ticket price
- Adult €9.50 | Student €6
- Place
- Karlskirche (incl. dome platform) · See card
Karlskirche → Naschmarkt
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:44–14:56 (12 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 12′
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Eat: Naschmarkt and Saturday flea market, Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise), Chen's Ramen
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:56–15:42 (46 min)
- Type
- Eat
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- On Tuesdays there are only stalls, no flea market; Café Sperl is the café from Before Sunrise (Xiaohongshu (RedNote)). In the morning we only ate on the train, so first buy a bite at Hbf to tide you over
- Alternative
- Naschmarkt and Saturday flea market Mentioned in 1 guide
- Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise) Mentioned in 1 guide
- Chen's Ramen Mentioned in 2 guides
- Also nearby
- Bitzinger sausage stand 0.7 km from Karlskirche (incl. dome platform) · mentioned in 1 guide
- Ribs of Vienna (roast pork ribs) 0.9 km from Karlskirche (incl. dome platform) · mentioned in 3 guides
- Reinthaler's Beisl (traditional Old Town tavern) 1.1 km from Karlskirche (incl. dome platform) · mentioned in 2 guides
Naschmarkt → Wien Hbf
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 15:42–16:03 (21 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 11′ + U1 Karlsplatz → Hbf (one at about 15:51) + walk 6′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (from 15:40)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the 7 Tage (€25.20, also covers 10-30 and 10-31) · Tickets and reservations
Pick up the suitcases, buy tonight's and tomorrow morning's food at Interspar (shops in Bad Ischl close early in the evening)
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 16:03–16:40 (37 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Get on the platform, confirm the seat reservation
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 16:40–16:57 (17 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
IC 742 Wien Hbf → Attnang-Puchheim 18:58, change to REX 4420 19:05 → Gmunden 19:19, change to SV170 bus 19:23 → Bad Ischl 20:00
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Time
- 16:57–20:00 (3 h 03)
- Type
- Fixed point
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22; 16:57 is fixed (decision D-44), ticket not yet bought; the Gmunden–Bad Ischl railway is closed until 11/2, connections not guaranteed; seat reservation
- Transport tickets
- Already bought, about €42.40–60.80 (see the order) · Tickets and reservations
Bad Ischl station → Airbnb
Recommended: leave at 16:57, arrive in Bad Ischl at 20:00 · whole group
- Type
- Transit
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Transport tickets
- Free
- Notes
- Airbnb check-in from 16:00; if arriving late, tell the host first
Get up, check out, take the two small suitcases
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Hotel → Budapest-Keleti
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Type
- Transit · tram 1 + bus 80 + walk 5′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (bus)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the second 24 h ticket · Tickets and reservations
Wait for the train at the Keleti platform, buy water
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 07:52–08:30 (38 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
EC 140 Budapest-Keleti → Wien Hbf (direct, already bought)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 08:30–11:20 (2 h 50)
- Type
- Fixed point
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-20; bought
- Transport tickets
- Bought; the price follows the order · Tickets and reservations
Store the two small suitcases on the lower level of Hbf (one XL compartment, on the spot, contactless bank cards only)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 11:20–11:40 (20 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Hbf → Upper Belvedere
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 11:40–11:55 (15 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 15′ (or walk 8′ + tram D 2′ + walk 3′)
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Queue to enter
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 11:55–12:00 (5 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 12:00–13:15 (1 h 15)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Notes
- 12:00 timed ticket; includes the garden; Klimt's The Kiss
- Ticket price
- Adult €23 | Student €19 (under 26)
- Place
- Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss) · See card
Belvedere → Rennweg
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 13:15–13:30 (15 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 11′ through the garden
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Salesianerinnenkirche (Church of the Salesian Sisters, Rennweg)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 13:30–13:45 (15 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Rennweg 10; not verified whether the inside can be entered
- Place
- Salesianerinnenkirche (Salesian Nuns' Church, Rennweg) · See card
Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 13:45–14:00 (15 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Rennweg 5a, Polish Church; the inside is probably open only during Mass, not verified
- Place
- Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg) · See card
Rennweg → Öfferl (Landstraßer Hauptstraße)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:00–14:18 (18 min)
- Type
- Transit · bus 77A + 74A, or walk 20′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (14:08 bus)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the 7 Tage (€25.20, also covers 10-30 and 10-31) · Tickets and reservations
Eat: Öfferl bakery (Landstraßer Hauptstraße branch), Vienna Central Station (luggage storage, groceries)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:20–14:45 (25 min)
- Type
- Eat
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Öfferl is a bakery chain, Xiaohongshu popularity 4; if you don't want the detour, take tram O back to Hbf and eat ready-made food from Interspar
- Alternative
- Öfferl bakery (Landstraßer Hauptstraße branch) Mentioned in 4 guides
- Vienna Central Station (luggage storage, groceries) No rating in the data
- Also nearby
- Chen's Ramen 0.9 km from Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg) · mentioned in 2 guides
- Ribs of Vienna (roast pork ribs) 0.9 km from Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg) · mentioned in 3 guides
- Bitzinger sausage stand 1.0 km from Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg) · mentioned in 1 guide
Öfferl → Wien Hbf
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 14:47–15:07 (20 min)
- Type
- Transit · U3 → U1, walk 4′ + 6′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (14:51 U3)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the 7 Tage (€25.20, also covers 10-30 and 10-31) · Tickets and reservations
Pick up the suitcases, buy tonight's and tomorrow morning's food at Interspar (shops in Bad Ischl close early in the evening)
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 15:07–15:40 (33 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Get on the platform, confirm the seat reservation
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 15:40–15:57 (17 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
IC 740 Wien Hbf → Attnang-Puchheim 17:58, change to R 4418 18:05 → Gmunden 18:20, change to SV170 bus 18:23 → Bad Ischl 19:00
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Time
- 15:57–19:00 (3 h 03)
- Type
- Fixed point
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22; the Gmunden–Bad Ischl railway is closed until 11/2, connections not guaranteed; seat reservation
- Transport tickets
- The ticket already bought is for the 16:57; taking a different train depends on the ticket type (ticket notes)
Bad Ischl station → Airbnb
Earlier option: leaves 15:57, arrives 19:00 · whole group
- Type
- Transit
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Transport tickets
- Free
Get up, check out, take the two small suitcases
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Hotel → Budapest-Keleti
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Type
- Transit · tram 1 + bus 80 + walk 5′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (bus)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the second 24 h ticket · Tickets and reservations
Wait for the train at the Keleti platform, buy water
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 07:52–08:30 (38 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
EC 140 Budapest-Keleti → Wien Hbf (direct, already bought)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 08:30–11:20 (2 h 50)
- Type
- Fixed point
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-20; bought
- Transport tickets
- Bought; the price follows the order · Tickets and reservations
Store the two small suitcases on the lower level of Hbf (one XL compartment, on the spot, contactless bank cards only); buy a bite at Interspar to tide you over
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 11:20–11:40 (20 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Hbf → Upper Belvedere
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 11:40–11:56 (16 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 4′ + tram 18 11:44 → Quartier Belvedere 11:47 + walk 9′ (or walk the whole way, 15′)
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Included in the 7 Tage (€25.20, also covers 10-30 and 10-31) · Tickets and reservations
Queue to enter
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 11:56–12:00 (4 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 12:00–13:30 (1 h 30)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Notes
- 12:00 timed ticket; Upper Belvedere plus the garden, about 1.5 h; Klimt's The Kiss
- Ticket price
- Adult €23 | Student €19 (under 26)
- Place
- Upper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss) · See card
Belvedere → Rennweg
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 13:30–13:41 (11 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 11′ through the garden
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Salesianerinnenkirche (Church of the Salesian Sisters, Rennweg)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 13:41–13:56 (15 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Rennweg 10; not verified whether the inside can be entered, treat it as an outside view on the way
- Place
- Salesianerinnenkirche (Salesian Nuns' Church, Rennweg) · See card
→ Gardekirche
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 13:56–14:01 (5 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 5′
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 14:01–14:15 (14 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Rennweg 5a, Polish Church; the inside is probably open only during Mass, not verified
- Place
- Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg) · See card
Gardekirche → Karlskirche
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 14:15–14:24 (9 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 9′
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Karlskirche (incl. dome platform)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 14:24–14:44 (20 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- On this day we only look at the exterior and the Henry Moore sculpture in the pool in front, and don't buy a ticket (go in on the evening of 10-31, student €6). If you want to go in on this day, add 40′ and shorten the Naschmarkt lunch
- Ticket price
- Adult €9.50 | Student €6
- Place
- Karlskirche (incl. dome platform) · See card
Karlskirche → Naschmarkt
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 14:44–14:56 (12 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 12′
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22
- Transport tickets
- Free
Eat: Naschmarkt and Saturday flea market, Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise), Chen's Ramen
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 14:56–15:42 (46 min)
- Type
- Eat
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- On Tuesday only the stalls are open; in the morning we only ate on the train, so buy something at Hbf first to tide us over
- Alternative
- Naschmarkt and Saturday flea market Mentioned in 1 guide
- Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise) Mentioned in 1 guide
- Chen's Ramen Mentioned in 2 guides
- Also nearby
- Bitzinger sausage stand 0.7 km from the Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze) · mentioned in 1 guide
- Ribs of Vienna (roast pork ribs) 0.9 km from Karlskirche (incl. dome platform) · mentioned in 3 guides
- Schnitzelwirt (cheap, big-portion schnitzel) 1.0 km from the Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze) · no rating in the data
Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 15:45–16:20 (35 min)
- Type
- Activity
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Friedrichstraße 12, a 7′ walk from Naschmarkt; Beethoven Frieze; Tue 10–18; student €7.50
- Ticket price
- Adult €13 (Beethovenfries plus the current exhibition) | Student €7.50 (students under 26, students and people with disabilities; the official site says "Studierende unter 26")
- Place
- Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze) · See card
Eat: Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise)
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 16:22–17:00 (38 min)
- Type
- Eat
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Notes
- Walk 2′; coffee and cake, apple strudel; this does not count as dinner
- Alternative
- Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise) Mentioned in 1 guide
- Also nearby
- Bitzinger sausage stand 0.7 km from the Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze) · mentioned in 1 guide
- Chen's Ramen 0.8 km from the Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze) · mentioned in 2 guides
- Schnitzelwirt (cheap, big-portion schnitzel) 1.0 km from the Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze) · no rating in the data
Café Sperl → Wien Hbf
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 17:01–17:24 (23 min)
- Type
- Transit · walk 13′ + U1 Karlsplatz 17:14 → Hbf 17:18 + walk 6′
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22 (from 17:01)
- Transport tickets
- Included in the 7 Tage (€25.20, also covers 10-30 and 10-31) · Tickets and reservations
Pick up the suitcases; buy dinner (eat on the train) and tomorrow morning's food at Interspar
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 17:24–17:50 (26 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
Get on the platform
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 17:50–17:57 (7 min)
- Type
- Buffer
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
IC 744 Wien Hbf → Attnang-Puchheim 19:58, change to R 3432 20:08 → Gmunden 20:23, change to SV170 bus 20:28 → Bad Ischl 21:21
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Time
- 17:57–21:21 (3 h 24)
- Type
- Fixed point
- Certainty
- Fixed Fixed: on the timetable, or already booked
- Source
- Checked on Transitous 10-22; the Gmunden–Bad Ischl railway is closed until 11/2, connections not guaranteed; seat reservation
- Transport tickets
- The ticket already bought is for the 16:57; taking a different train depends on the ticket type (ticket notes)
Bad Ischl station → Airbnb
Later option: leaves 17:57, arrives 21:21 · whole group
- Type
- Transit
- Certainty
- Est. Est.: estimated stay or walking time
- Transport tickets
- Free
- Notes
- Tell the host in advance that we will arrive late
Places for this day
The places to visit in the first timeline plan, in time order; each card says what time and who goes. Alternatives for meals are in the timeline blocks.
Top pickUpper Belvedere (Klimt's The Kiss)
Details
Open Every day 09–18; entry by timed ticket only; as relayed from the official site: Upper Belvedere every day 09:00–18:00 (extended to 19:00 only from 7-15 to 8-31), open as usual from 10-25 to 10-31, no closure notice seen; not checked on the original official page.
Youth ticket Free under 19
Combo ticket Upper + Lower Belvedere combo: a search snippet says adult €32, student €25 (not checked on the original official page). There is also a Gold Pass U26 €29, which the search snippet describes as "under 26, covers three venues" (not checked on the original official page).
Notes The student price is marked "under 26"; the original official page could not be read, and the site does not say whether ISIC is accepted, so show a student card on site. A search snippet says free under 19, also with ID. Whether the official site forces you to book a timed ticket online was not found; a third party says there are time slots, the official snippet does not mention it. Third-party sites show lower or outdated prices (e.g. student €13.40, €17.50); not used.
Ticket price source Official site belvedere.at/en/visit (connections to belvedere.at were refused in this environment; the prices come from WebSearch relaying the official page, not read directly); checked 2026-10-22
Source 3 posts in the materials
Rain OK to go
Take tram O or 18 from Hbf for 2–3 min, then walk about 3 min
Checked: 2026-10-20 official site (route C)
OptionalSalesianerinnenkirche (Salesian Nuns' Church, Rennweg)
Details
Open Not verified
Cost Not verified
Rain OK to go
Not in the Xiaohongshu posts; whether you can go inside and when it opens was not found. 11′ walk from the Belvedere
Checked: not verified (only the location was checked)
OptionalGardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg)
Details
Open Not verified
Cost Not verified
Rain OK to go
Not in the Xiaohongshu posts; the inside is probably open only during Mass (unchecked). 9′ walk to Karlskirche
Checked: not verified (only the location was checked)
Top pickKarlskirche (incl. dome platform)
Details
Open Mon–Sat 09–18; ticketed visiting hours Mon–Sat 09:00–18:00; on Sundays and public holidays the website gives two different hours (11:30–19:00 and 11:45–19:15). Open on 10-27 (Tue), 10-30 (Fri) and 10-31 (Sat); the website lists no closure notice.
Youth ticket Teens €5; free for ages 10 and under
Combo ticket No combo ticket. Admission includes the church model, the panoramic platform (Altane), the treasury, the organ and an audio guide
Notes The website does not give a student age limit or say whether ID is needed. It lists no separate price for the dome lift: the platform is reached through the organ gallery, and a third party says it is included in admission. The website does not say "free during the Mass after 18:00": it only gives Mass Mon–Sat at 18:00 and ticketed visiting hours 09:00–18:00, and says nothing about free entry during Mass; attending Mass does not mean you can sightsee. Do not plan around this claim.
Ticket price source Official site karlskirche.at/en/visit; checked 2026-10-22
Source 5 posts in the materials
Rain OK to go
About 11′ walk from Naschmarkt; Xiaohongshu says entry is free during the Mass after 18:00, but the official site does not say this and only gives ticketed visiting hours 09:00–18:00, so go inside before 18:00 (student €6); after 18:00 look at the exterior and the pool at night. In the pool in front is Henry Moore's Hill Arches (a bronze arch sculpture installed in 1978). The "church with the Möbius strip" the user mentioned is not this one, it is the Votivkirche (Q-09 closed, D-70). I came on 10-27 (the user said so on 10-30 at 19:12)
Checked: 2026-10-18 store
Places in other plans (1)
OptionalSecession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze)
Details
Open Tue–Sun 10:00–18:00, closed Mon. Open on 10-27 (Tue), 10-30 (Fri) and 10-31 (Sat); the website gives no special arrangements for late October.
Youth ticket Free under 12
Combo ticket Not found
Notes Free on the first Wednesday of every month (10-07, 11-04, 12-02), which are not our dates. While the exhibition is being changed, only the Beethoven Frieze can be seen. The website does not say whether ID is needed or whether ISIC is accepted.
Ticket price source Official site secession.at/informationen_tickets; opening hours secession.at/en/visit/; checked 2026-10-22
Checked: 2026-10-22 official site (prices and opening hours)
Map
Dark: the recommended plan; blue: other candidates and mentioned places. Click a dot for the name and transit directions. Grey dots are other places in the database within 5 km of the day's location: dark grey ≤2.5 km (walkable), light grey 2.5–5 km (need a ride).
Notes for this day
Take EC 140 in the morning to Vienna, store the suitcases and go to Upper Belvedere (12:00 timed ticket), then see the two small churches on Rennweg next door, pass the Karlskirche for its exterior, have lunch at Naschmarkt, take IC 742 at 16:57 to Bad Ischl, arriving at 20:00. This leaves about 1 h more than the earlier 15:57 train. The latest train you asked about: the last one that reaches Bad Ischl the same day is IC 840 leaving Hbf at 20:57, arriving only at 00:21 the next day, not recommended. Hbf shows no "16:50" train; the closest is this one. This train is fixed (decision D-44).
Alternatives by time slot
The first item in each slot is the recommended one; the others are swaps.
Early afternoon (13:30–14:45)
RecommendedOptionalEither way Salesianerinnenkirche (Salesian Nuns' Church, Rennweg)
Details
Open Not verified
Cost Not verified
Rain OK to go
Not in the Xiaohongshu posts; whether you can go inside and when it opens was not found. 11′ walk from the Belvedere
Checked: not verified (only the location was checked)
OptionalEither way Gardekirche (Polish Church, Rennweg)
Details
Open Not verified
Cost Not verified
Rain OK to go
Not in the Xiaohongshu posts; the inside is probably open only during Mass (unchecked). 9′ walk to Karlskirche
Checked: not verified (only the location was checked)
Top pickEither way Karlskirche (incl. dome platform)
Details
Open Mon–Sat 09–18; ticketed visiting hours Mon–Sat 09:00–18:00; on Sundays and public holidays the website gives two different hours (11:30–19:00 and 11:45–19:15). Open on 10-27 (Tue), 10-30 (Fri) and 10-31 (Sat); the website lists no closure notice.
Youth ticket Teens €5; free for ages 10 and under
Combo ticket No combo ticket. Admission includes the church model, the panoramic platform (Altane), the treasury, the organ and an audio guide
Notes The website does not give a student age limit or say whether ID is needed. It lists no separate price for the dome lift: the platform is reached through the organ gallery, and a third party says it is included in admission. The website does not say "free during the Mass after 18:00": it only gives Mass Mon–Sat at 18:00 and ticketed visiting hours 09:00–18:00, and says nothing about free entry during Mass; attending Mass does not mean you can sightsee. Do not plan around this claim.
Ticket price source Official site karlskirche.at/en/visit; checked 2026-10-22
Source 5 posts in the materials
Rain OK to go
About 11′ walk from Naschmarkt; Xiaohongshu says entry is free during the Mass after 18:00, but the official site does not say this and only gives ticketed visiting hours 09:00–18:00, so go inside before 18:00 (student €6); after 18:00 look at the exterior and the pool at night. In the pool in front is Henry Moore's Hill Arches (a bronze arch sculpture installed in 1978). The "church with the Möbius strip" the user mentioned is not this one, it is the Votivkirche (Q-09 closed, D-70). I came on 10-27 (the user said so on 10-30 at 19:12)
Checked: 2026-10-18 store
Lunch and late afternoon (14:55–16:00)
RecommendedTop pickEither way Naschmarkt and Saturday flea market
Details
Open Flea market every Saturday 06:30–15:00; market stalls Mon–Sat
Cost Free to browse
Source 2 posts in the materials
Rain Not advisable
U4 Kettenbrückengasse station; from Hbf about 10 minutes by U1 + U4; Xiaohongshu has only 1 post, which mentions in passing the ice cream shop in the market (open only in spring and summer); the recommendation for the flea market (Sat 06:30–15:00) comes from the research table
Checked: 2026-10-18 store
.JPG){kind=link}
.JPG){kind=link}
OptionalEither way Café Sperl (the café from Before Sunrise)
Details
Open Not verified
Cost €€
Source 1 post in the materials
Rain OK to go
Someone says the warm apple is a bit sour
Checked: 2026-10-22 materials (location only)
.jpg){kind=link}
OptionalEither way Secession Building (Klimt's Beethoven Frieze)
Details
Open Tue–Sun 10:00–18:00, closed Mon. Open on 10-27 (Tue), 10-30 (Fri) and 10-31 (Sat); the website gives no special arrangements for late October.
Youth ticket Free under 12
Combo ticket Not found
Notes Free on the first Wednesday of every month (10-07, 11-04, 12-02), which are not our dates. While the exhibition is being changed, only the Beethoven Frieze can be seen. The website does not say whether ID is needed or whether ISIC is accepted.
Ticket price source Official site secession.at/informationen_tickets; opening hours secession.at/en/visit/; checked 2026-10-22
Checked: 2026-10-22 official site (prices and opening hours)
What if it rains
- The Belvedere is indoors, so it goes ahead as usual; the Rennweg churches and the Karlskirche are exteriors only, skip them if it rains; from 13:30 take tram 18 back to near Hbf, eat at Interspar, and swap Naschmarkt for Café Sperl (indoors).
Heads-up for tomorrow
- 10-28 Wed to Wolfgangsee: take bus 150 at Bad Ischl station at 09:24; 10-29 Thu to Gosausee and the Hallstatt blue hour, which is tighter: leave early and take bus 541 in Bad Ischl (follow the 10-28 and 10-29 day pages). The two days can be swapped depending on the weather (decision D-45).
- School holidays (10-27 to 11-02): the day before, check the 10-28 and 10-29 buses again on ÖBB Scotty / OÖVV.
- Tonight check the forecast for 10-28 and 10-29 (Wolfgangsee, Gosausee, Hallstatt); I bring a headlamp (for the evening of 10-29).
Transport costs for this day
Costs per person; the data comes from the "Tickets and reservations" page and is not written separately here. Buses, metro, trains and boats count as transport; cable cars and sight admissions do not. Walking costs nothing and is not listed.
-
Budapest-Keleti → Wien Hbf (EC 140 direct)Price per the order, or not foundInternational ticket (already bought) · whole group · Bought · Tickets and reservations →Tickets for 4 people are already bought; no price recorded, not estimated, follow the order.
-
Wien Hbf → Bad Ischl (IC 742 + change to REX at Attnang + change to SV170 bus at Gmunden, one ticket)€42.40–60.80 (est.)ÖBB ticket (Sparschiene or FLEX standard ticket, not specified) · whole group · Bought · Tickets and reservations →Lower bound = Sparschiene for 4 people €169.60 ÷ 4 (no seat reservation); upper bound = FLEX group standard ticket for 4 people €231.20 ÷ 4 plus €3 per person for a seat reservation (ÖBB website purchase page, checked in the main session on 10-24). The actual payment is per the order.
-
Within Vienna: 10-27 Hbf → Belvedere → Rennweg → Karlskirche → Naschmarkt → Hbf (tram 18, U1, etc.); also covers city transport on 10-30 and 10-31€25.20Wiener Linien 7 Tage digital ticket (starts 10-27, valid until 11-03 00:59) · whole group · 1 per person · Buy on site · Tickets and reservations →
-
Hotel → Budapest-Keleti: tram 1 + bus 80 (with a change)IncludedSecond 24-hour ticket bought on 10-26 · whole group · Included · Tickets and reservations →The second 24 h ticket only starts on the afternoon of 10-26 and is still valid now.
Another way to buy, or alternatives
-
Hotel → Budapest-Keleti: tram 1 + bus 80 (with a change)600 FtBKK 30-minute ticket · whole group · 1 per person · Buy on site · Tickets and reservations →Alternative: If the second 24 h ticket is not bought, it is not counted in the totalChanges are allowed within 30 minutes (it is enough that the last change is within 30 minutes); boarding the tram at 07:35 and changing to the bus at 07:41 fits; it can only be bought in the app. Cheaper than the 90-minute ticket (850 Ft).